Saturday, 19 September 2015

The case for the UK's political system #DebateDay

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Well, the big day is here at last.  It's been a rollercoaster of a ride here, there's been some interesting comments on the internet...

"Meow" - Colin the Cat, UK

And some mud slung around...

"You have been taking a lot of liberties with cats lately" - Mr T Clark, USA

And even some outright craziness...

"I prefer the government of Belize" - Mr J Crow, USA

But enough is enough now, and today we shall put forward our cases as to why our political system is better.

The case for the UK

Well, our system was here first.  The UK has not been conquered or occupied for over a thousand years, and over that time we have been able to develop our system, from the Magna Carta (signed 800 years ago this year) giving power to the lords of the country, to the extension of power to commoners, to the current Westminster system (called this because it's from Westminster in the UK) which is replicated around the world, including in such outposts as the USA.

The UK does not have a president, instead opting for a system where even our Prime Minster can be held to account by Parliament.  This gives confidence in that the rule of the head of government must be just, or face removal from office.  In the US however, the President is separated from the Senate, so they only address the Senate once a year, and they can find themselves in the difficult position of the Senate having a majority of members allied to a different party than the President, hamstringing the President.

And of course, the UK is a constitutional monarchy, and executive rule is held by Her Majesty the Queen.  Monarchs are increasingly rare in today's world, and I can understand the argument for republics - but consider this.  The UK is one of the few (if not the only) countries that became a republic, and then invited the King back to allow the return of the country to a monarchy.  That means that our monarchs are clearly the best.

This briefly adds up to the UK's political system being superior than the US.

But don't let this be enough reason for you - this video is where all the action is, with the full discussion -  watch it below:

And now - go see Tim's blog (and video) for the case for the US that he is putting forward today.  And when you're done, make sure to leave us a comment on what side you're on!


  1. Excellent explanation. You forgot to mention that at Westminster we supply our MPs with snuff, how could you not love a political system that has that as a perk?
    I couldn't find Tims argument on his blog, maybe he's not posted it yet.

    1. That is indeed an amazing perk. I posted this early as I'm out for the day, I'm sure Tims will be soon!

  2. In all fairness I think the problem with the UK system of government was explained here quite well too "giving power to the lords of the country, to the extension of power to commoners" which has always been my problem with the United Kingdom. The "class" system. It has been something that libiots and libtards have been trying to convince Americans that we fall under as well. The "Middle Class" the "Lower Class" the "Upper Class" because one of the things that always gets forgotten about in a Republic without a monarch (regardless of what the class envy indoctrination units we call the news media would tell you) anyone can switch their classes, and a lot easier than what is perceived. Certain occupations in European countries are institutionalized as "Common" and can never achieve any higher status than what it is perceived from the very beginning. For example, a plumber in the United States is a very lucrative trade because most people don't want to do it. The guy who shows up and fixes your toilet usually makes well over 75k a year which actually places you in the top 10% of wage earners in this country. I say this not as someone who watches these things but as someone who did these things. I was born into what we would consider a "lower class" because my father as a school teacher always made in the bottom 50% of actual wage earners. Of course he worked several jobs his whole life and now is quite wealthy and retired. I on the other hand started my first job at a whopping $2.01 an hour and now make a salary that would qualify me as being in the top 10% of wage earners, and I ain't done yet.

    1. I think that's a fair point Jeremy, I think the British do have a different outlook, we do tend to think that we "have our place" and don't look beyond that. The American dream (which I fully support) can seem intimidating to us.

  3. You still get the edge though because us Americans always fall for a British accent lol

  4. Although I am in favour of democracy (improvements to be made in all of the systems, UK or otherwise), I do have a problem with it - politics has become so complex, and the portrayal of political news and opinion so twisted and subjective, I don't believe that most of us really understand what it is we're voting for. A lot comes down to personalities, or who argues better, rather than who actually has the best case. Whenever I vote, I always feel guilty and think 'am I really qualified to be making this decision?'. Of course this would be solved by having politicians and media reporters who told the truth in black and white for a change!

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